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tiikeri
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 Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: sea level rise, is dubai ready? |
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seems like the earths temperature is gonna increase.. so the sea level will rise accordingly.. what are the thoughts you guys have
here is a map of a 7 meter sea level rise.. it does show a disturbing pictures for dubai.. is this dubai in the year 2040?
http://flood.firetree.net/?ll=25.1204,55.1781&z=6 |
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rolf29
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| Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:31 am Post subject: |
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Problematical.
Ihey will have to make dikes (like Germnay, The Netherlands, ...).
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Neon Lite
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:19 am Post subject: |
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Umm...a 7 meter increase???? 2040????
Any scientific proof to that besides a website http://flood.firetree.net/ that scales 0 to 14 meters?  |
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tiikeri
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MikeM
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[quote="tiikeri"]
| Neon Lite wrote: |
Umm...a 7 meter increase???? 2040????
Any scientific proof to that besides a website
the 2040 year was followed by a questionmark.. so it isnŽt a statement
according to it.. if all the ice would melt the sea level would rise 60-75 meters.. but that would take alot longer
think about it.. thereŽs estimatly 30,000,000 km3 of ice on the planet
and if all that would melt.. and stream down to the oceans.. then there would be an impact |
The NASA TOPEX/Poseidon satellite measuring antartic sea levels reports a rise of 1.67 mm per year -
Yes, that's ONE-POINT-SIX-SEVEN MILLIMETRES!!
It will take several thousand years at that rate for sea levels to go up by 7m - The 1.67mm is probably within the device's margin of error
There's also evidence that the Antartic ice pack may be getting THICKER. (NASA ICEsat) - Because the Artic ice is nearly all floating ON the sea, if somehow it all melted, it would have NO effect on global sea levels.
There has also been a huge reduction in sunspot activity - no one seems to know why but Al Gore is trying to find someone to blame it on
Low sunspot activity corresponds to a COOLING trend. So IF the greenhouse gas theory actually works (believe it or not, that has never been proven) we may just need the extra warmth as temperatures cool, icepacks increase and sea levels DROP!
By all means, let's get rid of pollution wherever we can but we're in far more danger from politicians than from any "climate change"
Can we maybe focus on getting rid of political pollution first? |
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rolf29
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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The NASA TOPEX/Poseidon satellite measuring antartic sea levels reports a rise of 1.67 mm per year |
Yes. But since 1993 we have 3 mm the year ( http://www.atmosphere.mpg.de/enid/2rv.html ). As far as 2100 we should have a complete upper level of "only" 22 - 44 cm (not 7 m). A big problem for Bangladesh and others. No problem for BD 
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MikeM
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="rolf29"]
| MikeM wrote: |
| tiikeri wrote: |
The NASA TOPEX/Poseidon satellite measuring antarctic sea levels reports a rise of 1.67 mm per year |
Yes. But since 1993 we have 3 mm the year As far as 2100 we should have a complete upper level of "only" 22 - 44 cm (not 7 m). A big problem for Bangladesh and others. No problem for BD |
They are using old data - NASA had to recalibrate Topex/Poseidon and their numbers are now under 2mm/year and are within the device's margin of error so it could be less, could be more
Even at 3mm/year, it would take 300 years to raise sea levels one meter
Also, IF seas are warming, the arctic ice cap might melt but that would not raise the seas as it it 90% floating ice. BUT if the seas at the antarctic are warming, that will cause increased precipitation over the south pole - precipitation in Antarctica falls as snow, settles as ice - Increased ice on land will LOWER sea levels.
I don't dismiss climate change but am extremely sceptical about mankind's influence on it - Volcanoes and sunspots have a far greater impact. Various people are jumping on shaky data making wild assumptions, extrapolating same and presenting them as fact to scare us all into paying taxes and fees and making a LOT of people very rich - Just look at how much money Al Gore has made from his campaign - and look at HIS carbon footprint.... |
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marc
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:12 am Post subject: |
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I have to agree with mikem to a large extend.
In the Netherlands it is now very, very obvious that the govenrment WANTS us to drive more km, and to smoke more tobacco, drink more alcohol.
They are hot on the taxes they get for it.
Although they say differently.
Energy saving is necessary to lower your expenses on electricity and gas.
It pays off well.
And sea level rise?
I live approx. 2 m below sea level. No problem, no fears!!!
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tiikeri
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| MikeM wrote: |
| Just look at how much money Al Gore has made from his campaign - and look at HIS carbon footprint.... |
išve heard Gore gives 100% of his profit to charity from the sales of the dvd inconvenient truth.. |
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MikeM
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| tiikeri wrote: |
| MikeM wrote: |
| Just look at how much money Al Gore has made from his campaign - and look at HIS carbon footprint.... |
išve heard Gore gives 100% of his profit to charity from the sales of the dvd inconvenient truth.. |
His overall earnings since jumping on the climate change bandwagon are in the tens of millions or more. Some report his earnings as over $100 million.
He earns tens of thousands of dollars every time he speaks. I believe his "basic speaking fee" is $175 THOUSAND per appearance - Giving away the profit from DVD sales (and profit numbers are really easy to "tweak") is pennies by comparison. |
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tiikeri
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| MikeM wrote: |
| tiikeri wrote: |
| MikeM wrote: |
| Just look at how much money Al Gore has made from his campaign - and look at HIS carbon footprint.... |
išve heard Gore gives 100% of his profit to charity from the sales of the dvd inconvenient truth.. |
His overall earnings since jumping on the climate change bandwagon are in the tens of millions or more. Some report his earnings as over $100 million.
He earns tens of thousands of dollars every time he speaks. I believe his "basic speaking fee" is $175 THOUSAND per appearance - Giving away the profit from DVD sales (and profit numbers are really easy to "tweak") is pennies by comparison. |
true.. that is a lot of money for a speach.. talk about getting hyped.. |
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