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austinsteev1



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: STEEL CONSTRUCTION Reply with quote

Why is the steel construction going so blasted slow? Does anyone know?
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burj
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think AltinD summed it up very nicely on another forum:

"- difficulties related to the first floors that require a much much higher precision then the upper floors

- more controls and tests related to the materials

- more difficulties to work in such heights.

Anyway the first floors are always slower then the others, even when you are at ground level."
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austinsteev1



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, thanks Burj. Appreciate it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first steel stage is 157?
I´m not sure. (Look to the written number 154 http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/01January/Burj_Dubai011714.jpg )
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have probably had fit up problems between the steel and the concrete core. That's a complicated steel structure and they have probably had more fit-up problems between steel members to get to where they are now. A steel erection crew is broken down inti two teams , the erectors who climb on the steel and postion/secure the steel in place with a few bolts and the bolting crew that follows to complete all bolting and bolt tightening.In this case , I don't think that the erecting crew can get too far ahead of the bolting crew, for a number of reasons. This steel has to be placed in the exact postion or they will be in deep trouble farther up. In a high rise building say 40 to 50 floors ( 150 m) and simple framing) a steel erecting crew can place 40 to 50 pieces per day. They are presently at 600 m , on a small floor plate and tying to place complicated heavy steel framing .A couple of pieces a day , maybe. This should get interesting .
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone seen or heard something about the window-washing equipment?
According Emaar's website, it should consist of 3 telecoping machines. I assume they will be (were already ?) placed on floor 156.
Does anybody know?

Concerning the speed of steel erection: I agree with Schrodinger's Cat: a complicated construction on a realtively small surface, at a tremendous height, etc. etc.

I'm waiting for the first pictures from up above...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two new photos by OTR of the steel section, still at second floor (?!):


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2nd floor still indeed!

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rolf29
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rolf29 wrote:
The first steel stage is 157?
I´m not sure. (Look to the written number 154 http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/01January/Burj_Dubai011714.jpg )


No. It´s level 156 not 157 ( http://burjdubaiskyscraper.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1430&highlight= - the diagram of burj shows)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated diagram by Culwulla:

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Mag



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are still at the very beginning of the steel structure.
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